Having found myself wanting a vertical grip for the Nikon D800 and not wanting to pay the ridiculous price for the Nikon branded grip,
I found the DTSE grip on Ebay from a seller in China
The grip comes complete with a non branded EN-EL18A battery and the battery door to fit the grip.
Two battery trays are supplied with the grip, one for the EN-EL 15 and one AAA battery tray.
Reportedly the trays and batteries are interchangeable with the original Nikon grip.
Along with a mains charger the EN-EL18A battery insert comes a car charger also which is a welcome accessory indeed.
The original Nikon battery has a capacity of 2000 mAh (10.8V), but the DTSE clone battery has a 3900 mAh (11.1V) capacity.
When I tested the battery and grip the video function of the camera does not work, but live view shooting does.
I have seen reports of
neither operation working with this grip when the clone battery is inserted.
DTSE D800 MB-D12 Grip
Thankfully all operations function fine when using both the EN-EL15 battery in the grip or the AAA tray.
This leads me to assume that the clone battery is perhaps over or under powering the live view section of the camera.
All in all though I find the DTSE Vertical grip to be a good substitute for the Nikon MB-D12 grip.
I would recommend this grip as a fine alternative.
The build quality is good and it appears to be well made, the grip matches the body mottling of the D800
It also has the metal strip inside for tripod mounting. the controls all function a they should do and feel positive in use.
The locating pin is made of metal the same as the original.
The only thing that does not seem as good as it could be is the tightening wheel this is because it
remains slightly loose to the touch when the grip is fully tightened onto the D800 body.
I have found that when an EL15 A is inserted in the camera while using the grip, the live view and movie mode functions
both work as expected, when powered from the grip with the clone EN-EL18.
The battery life of the supplied clone EL-EN 18 is proving to be excellent.
Ok I have had my Nikon D800 E for a short while, probably a month and basically it is not in my opinion a camera for everyone,
and certainly not a Pro build body.
The battery life so far has been quite poor having been used to my Nikon D3 series bodies.
The feel and balance of the camera is unwieldy in my opinion and the multi selector is raised
too high and just plain gets in the way.
Trying to shoot in portrait mode the multi selector rests against your forehead and the focus points
dance around the viewfinder until you realise whats causing it and lock the thing. Trying to hold it so that the shutter release is on the right hand
side is just not comfortable and un balances my grip on the camera altogether, maybe a left handed shooter could use it that way.
Get A Grip
The alternative of course is to buy the Nikon battery grip, which gives the camera a vertical shutter and other controls also.
The cost of said item being a ridiculous £358.99p and an extra battery of which, at least one is a must, costs another £60.00.
This of course adds over £400.00 to the cost of owning this camera.
Third party grips are becoming available though on Ebay for £48-£69.00 so there are alternatives.
using a third party grip could cause problems but a lot of people report on the various forums (fora) that these grips are well made
and do the job well.
Focus on the Bad
I have seen many reports that the D800/E has had some serious focusing problems seems that a lot of early
adopters of this camera have experienced an asymmetrical focusing problem.
It seems that on a lot of cameras the extreme left and right focusing points are way of the mark and yet the centre focus point is
I thankfully have not had this problem on mine.
This does not make the problem any less problematic for the people who have paid a lot of money for a camera that does not
perform as it should. It seems that Nikon are saying nothing about this but a lot of cameras are being reported
as coming back from repair centres as not repaired.
On the subject of focusing, it also has been noticed that trap focus does not work as it should (used to do), on the D800.
When the custom setting A2 is set to focus only and AFS is selected the camera will fire without acquiring focus if the AF on button is selected for focusing the camera and not the
half press of the shutter release button.
Nikon Uk told me that this is the way it has been designed and maybe or maybe not it will be “fixed ” in the next firmware release.
But don’t hold your breath..
Why on earth did you buy this camera? I hear you ask, well because of the awesome sensor, a whopping 36Mega Pixels of image goodness.
I have to say though to all those who have said this a D3X killer, I don’t agree, sure it has 12 Mp more and the files are really clean, but a D3X killer it isn’t.
The body of the D3X is far superior in many ways and the camera, even as old technology is still an awesome camera.
The two card slots on the D800/E could have been the same instead of one CF card and one SDXC card slot.
To me it is inconvenient to have two different
cards for one camera.
The cost of the Nikon D800/E is £2,599.00 or £2,899.00 for the E version.
For Nikon, removing the anti-aliasing filter in the D800 to create the D800e wasn’t quite as simple as it sounds. The filter in the D800 is actually two layers, surrounding the infrared filter. The first layer blurs the image horizontally, and the second one blurs it vertically.
To create the D800e Nikon has apparently swapped out the second filter with one which re-converges the image that the first layer blurs. Apparently to give sharper images at the consequence of the more likely hood of producing moire (false colour) in
Most or all medium format Digital cameras do not have said filter.
I personally have not yet had to remove Moire from any of my images.
The Nikon D800 E comes with Capture NX2 with a Moire removal tool which will account for some of the extra cost.
I will be updating my thoughts on the camera as I get to use it more. For now it is my second go to camera.
|Type||Single-lens reflex digital camera|
|Lens mount||Nikon F mount (with AF coupling and AF contacts)|
|Effective pixels||36.3 million|
|Image sensor||35.9 x 24.0 mm CMOS sensor (Nikon FX format)|
|Total pixels||36.8 million|
|Dust-reduction System||Image sensor cleaning, Image Dust Off reference data (requires optional Capture NX 2 software)|
|Image size (pixels)||FX (36 x 24) image area: 7,360 x 4,912 (L), 5,520 x 3,680 (M), 3,680 x 2,456 (S) 1.2x (30 x 20) image area: 6,144 x 4,080 (L), 4,608 x 3,056 (M), 3,072 x 2,040 (S) DX (24 x 16) image area: 4,800 x 3,200 (L), 3,600 x 2,400 (M), 2,400 x 1,600 (S) 5 : 4 (30 x 24) image area: 6,144 x 4,912 (L), 4,608 x 3,680 (M), 3,072 x 2,456 (S) FX-format photographs taken in movie live view: 6,720 x 3,776 (L), 5,040 x 2,832 (M), 3,360 x 1,888 (S) DX-format photographs in movie live view: 4,800 x 2,704 (L), 3,600 x 2,024 (M), 2,400 x 1,352 (S) Note: Photographs taken in movie live view have an aspect ratio of 16 : 9. A DX-based format is used for photographs taken using the DX (24 x 16) 1.5x image area; an FX-based format is used for all other photographs.|
|File format||NEF (RAW): 12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed, compressed, or uncompressed TIFF (RGB) JPEG: JPEG-Baseline compliant with fine (approx. 1 : 4), normal (approx. 1 : 8), or basic (approx. 1 : 16) compression (Size priority); Optimal quality compression available NEF (RAW)+JPEG: Single photograph recorded in both NEF (RAW) and JPEG formats|
|Picture Control System||Can be selected from Standard, Neutral, Vivid, Monochrome, Portrait, Landscape; selected Picture Control can be modified; storage for custom Picture Controls|
|Media||SD (Secure Digital) and UHS-I compliant SDHC and SDXC memory cards; Type I CompactFlash memory cards (UDMA compliant)|
|Dual card slots||Either card can be used for primary or backup storage, or for separate storage of NEF (RAW) and JPEG images; pictures can be copied between cards.|
|File system||DCF (Design Rule for Camera File System) 2.0, DPOF (Digital Print Order Format), Exif (Exchangeable Image File Format for Digital Still Cameras) 2.3, PictBridge|
|Viewfinder||Eye-level pentaprism single-lens reflex viewfinder|
|Frame coverage||FX (36 x 24): Approx. 100% horizontal and 100% vertical 1.2x (30 x 20): Approx. 97% horizontal and 97% vertical DX (24 x 16): Approx. 97% horizontal and 97% vertical 5:4 (30 x 24): Approx. 97% horizontal and 100% vertical|
|Magnification||Approx. 0.7 x (50 mm f/1.4 lens at infinity, -1.0 m-1)|
|Eyepoint||17 mm (-1.0 m-1; from center surface of viewfinder eyepiece lens)|
|Diopter adjustment||-3 -+1 m-1|
|Focusing screen||Type B BriteView Clear Matte Mark VIII screen with AF area brackets and framing grid|
|Reflex mirror||Quick return|
|Depth-of-field preview||When depth-of-field preview button is pressed, lens aperture is stopped down to value selected by user (A and M modes) or by camera (P and S modes)|
|Lens aperture||Instant return, electronically controlled|
|Compatible lenses||Compatible with AF NIKKOR lenses, including type G and D lenses (some restrictions apply to PC Micro-NIKKOR lenses) and DX lenses (using DX 24 x 16 1.5x image area), AI-P NIKKOR lenses, and non-CPU AI lenses (exposure modes A and M only). IX NIKKOR lenses, lenses for the F3AF, and non-AI lenses can not be used. The electronic rangefinder can be used with lenses that have a maximum aperture of f/5.6 or faster.|
|Type||Electronically-controlled vertical-travel focal-plane shutter|
|Speed||1/8000 – 30 s in steps of 1/3, 1/2, or 1 EV, bulb, X250|
|Flash sync speed||X=1/250 s; synchronizes with shutter at 1/320 s or slower (flash range drops at speeds between 1/250 and 1/320 s)|
|Release mode||Single frame, Continuous low speed, Continuous high speed, Quiet shutter-release, Self-timer, Mirror up|
|Approximate frame advance rate||With EN-EL15 batteries – Image area: FX/5 : 4; CL: 1-4 fps, CH: 4 fps – Image area: DX/1.2x; CL: 1-5 fps, CH: 5 fps Other power sources – Image area: FX/5 : 4; CL: 1-4 fps, CH: 4 fps – Image area: 1.2x; CL: 1-5 fps, CH: 5 fps – Image area: DX; CL: 1-5 fps, CH: 6 fps|
|Self-timer||2 s, 5 s, 10 s, 20 s; 1-9 exposures at intervals of 0.5, 1, 2, or 3 s|
|Metering||TTL exposure metering using 91K (91,000)-pixel RGB sensor|
|Metering method||Matrix: 3D color matrix metering III (type G and D lenses); color matrix metering III (other CPU lenses); color matrix metering available with non-CPU lenses if user provides lens data. Center-weighted: Weight of 75% given to 12 mm circle in center of frame. Diameter of circle can be changed to 8, 15, or 20 mm, or weighting can be based on average of entire frame (non-CPU lenses use 12-mm circle or average of entire frame). Spot: Meters 4 mm circle (about 1.5% of frame) centered on selected focus point (on center focus point when non-CPU lens is used)|
|Range (ISO 100, f/1.4 lens, 20 °C/68 °F)||Matrix or center-weighted metering: 0-20 EV Spot metering: 2-20 EV|
|Exposure meter coupling||Combined CPU and AI|
|Exposure mode||Programmed auto with flexible program (P); shutter-priority auto (S); aperture-priority auto (A); manual (M)|
|Exposure compensation||-5 -+5 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2, or 1 EV|
|Exposure bracketing||2-9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, or 1 EV|
|Flash bracketing||2-9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, or 1 EV|
|White balance bracketing||2-9 frames in steps of 1, 2, or 3|
|ADL bracketing||2 frames using selected value for one frame or 3-5 frames using preset values for all frames|
|Exposure lock||Luminosity locked at detected value with AE-L/AF-L button|
|ISO sensitivity (Recommended Exposure Index)||ISO 100 – 6400 in steps of 1/3, 1/2, or 1 EV. Can also be set to approx. 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, or 1 EV (ISO 50 equivalent) below ISO 100 or to approx. 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, 1, or 2 EV (ISO 25600 equivalent) above ISO 6400; auto ISO sensitivity control available|
|Active D-Lighting||Can be selected from Auto, Extra high, High, Normal, Low, or Off|
|Autofocus||Nikon Advanced Multi-CAM 3500FX autofocus sensor module with TTL phase detection, fine-tuning, 51 focus points (including 15 cross-type sensors), and AF-assist illuminator (range approx. 0.5-3 m/1 ft 8 in.-9 ft 10 in.)|
|Detection range||-2 -+19 EV (ISO 100, 20 °C/68 °F)|
|Lens servo||Autofocus (AF): Single-servo AF (AF-S); continuous-servo AF (AF-C); predictive focus tracking automatically activated according to subject status Manual focus (M): Electronic rangefinder can be used|
|Focus point||Can be selected from 51 or 11 focus points|
|AF-area mode||Single-point AF, 9-, 21-, or 51- point dynamic-area AF, 3D-tracking, auto-area AF|
|Focus lock||Focus can be locked by pressing shutter-release button halfway (single-servo AF) or by pressing AE-L/AF-L button|
|Built-in flash||Manual pop-up with button release and a Guide Number of 12/39, 12/39 with manual flash (m/ft, ISO 100, 20 °C/68 °F)|
|Flash control||TTL: i-TTL flash control using 86K (86,400)-pixel RGB sensor is available with built-in flash and SB-910, SB-900, SB-800, SB-700, SB-600, or SB-400; i-TTL balanced fill-flash for digital SLR is used with matrix and center-weighted metering, standard i-TTL flash for digital SLR with spot metering|
|Flash mode||Front curtain sync, slow sync, rear-curtain sync, red-eye reduction, red-eye reduction with slow sync, slow rear-curtain sync; Auto FP High-Speed Sync supported|
|Flash compensation||-3 -+1 EV in increments of 1/3, 1/2, or 1 EV|
|Flash-ready indicator||Lights when built-in flash or optional flash unit is fully charged; blinks for 3 s after flash is fired at full output|
|Accessory shoe||ISO 518 hot-shoe with sync and data contacts and safety lock|
|Nikon Creative Lighting System (CLS)||Advanced Wireless Lighting supported with built-in flash, SB-910, SB-900, SB-800, or SB-700 as a master flash and SB-600 or SB-R200 as remotes, or SU-800 as commander; built-in flash can serve as master flash in commander mode; Auto FP High-Speed Sync and modeling illumination supported with all CLS-compatible flash units except SB-400; Flash Color Information Communication and FV lock supported with all CLS-compatible flash units|
|Sync terminal||ISO 519 sync terminal with locking thread|
|White balance||Auto (2 types), incandescent, fluorescent (7 types), direct sunlight, flash, cloudy, shade, preset manual (up to 4 values can be stored), choose color temperature (2500 K-10000 K), all with fine-tuning.|
|Modes||Live view photography (still images), movie live view (movies)|
|Lens servo||Autofocus (AF): Single-servo AF (AF-S); full-time servo AF (AF-F) Manual focus (M)|
|AF-area mode||Face-priority AF, wide-area AF, normal-area AF, subject-tracking AF|
|Autofocus||Contrast-detect AF anywhere in frame (camera selects focus point automatically when face-priority AF or subject-tracking AF is selected)|
|Metering||TTL exposure metering using main image sensor|
|Frame size (pixels) and frame rate||1,920 x 1,080; 30 p (progressive), 25 p, 24 p 1,280 x 720; 60 p, 50 p, 30 p, 25 p Actual frame rates for 60 p, 50 p, 30 p, 25 p, and 24 p are 59.94, 50, 29.97, 25, and 23.976 fps respectively; options support both high and normal image quality|
|Video compression||H.264/MPEG-4 Advanced Video Coding|
|Audio recording format||Linear PCM|
|Audio recording device||Built-in monaural or external stereo microphone; sensitivity adjustable|
|Movie options||Index marking, time-lapse photography|
|Monitor||8-cm/3.2-in., approx. 921k-dot (VGA) TFT LCD with 170 ° viewing angle, approx. 100% frame coverage, and automatic monitor brightness control using ambient brightness sensor|
|Playback||Full-frame and thumbnail (4, 9, or 72 images) playback with playback zoom, movie playback, photo and/or movie slide shows, highlights, histogram display, auto image rotation, and image comment (up to 36 characters)|
|USB||SuperSpeed USB (USB 3.0 Micro-B connector)|
|HDMI output||Type C mini-pin HDMI connector; can be used simultaneously with camera monitor|
|Audio input||Stereo mini-pin jack (3.5mm diameter)|
|Audio output||Stereo mini-pin jack (3.5mm diameter)|
|Ten-pin remote terminal||Can be used to connect optional remote control, GP-1 GPS unit, or GPS device compliant with NMEA0183 version 2.01 or 3.01 (requires optional MC-35 GPS adapter cord and cable with D-sub 9-pin connector)|
|Supported languages||Arabic, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian|
|Battery||One rechargeable Li-ion EN-EL15 battery|
|Battery pack||Optional MB-D12 multi-power battery pack with one rechargeable Nikon EN-EL15 Li-ion battery or eight AA alkaline, Ni-MH, or lithium batteries.|
|AC adapter||EH-5b AC adapter; requires EP-5B power connector (available separately)|
|Tripod socket||1/4 in. (ISO 1222)|
|Dimensions (W x H x D)||Approx. 146 x 123 x 81.5 mm (5.7 x 4.8 x 3.2 in.)|
|Weight||Approx. 1,000 g (2 lb 3.3 oz) with battery and SD memory card but without body cap; approx. 900 g/1 lb 15.7 oz (camera body only)|
|Temperature||0-40 °C (+32-104 °F)|
|Humidity||Less than 85% (no condensation)|
|Supplied accessories||EN-EL15 rechargeable Li-ion battery with terminal cover, MH-25 battery charger (AC wall adapter supplied only in countries or regions where required), Strap (AN-DC6 for D800, AN-DC6E for D800E), UC-E14 USB cable, USB cable clip, BF-1B body cap, BS-1 accessory shoe cover, BM-12 monitor cover, ViewNX 2 installer CD|